The legal industry shed 64,000 jobs in April as impacts from the COVID-19 pandemic permeated the economy. With uncertainty about the timing and pace of a recovery, that leaves a lot of people figuring out the next steps of their careers in a difficult economic climate.

On this Legal Speak podcast, we share perspective on career disruption and resilience from a Big Law counsel and former GC who isn't afraid to acknowledge that her career has had "some real ups and downs."

Cynthia Cole, special counsel in the Silicon Valley office of Baker Botts, talks about losing her first job out of law school during the dot-com bust. She says the concept of resilience doesn't mean you just bounce back.

Cole, who specializes in data privacy and cross-border technology transactions, also shares advice about how to talk about a layoff or professional setback once you get back into the job market.

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