Editor's Note: We'll be back in two weeks with new episodes, but today we're highlighting an interview from May that you might have missed on a topic that's only becoming more relevant as 2021 continues on and more firms look to make staffing reductions.

In this episode, Patrick Krill, principal and founder of Krill Strategies, a behavioral health consulting firm focused exclusively on the legal industry, raises an interesting and little-discussed point: as law firms continue to cut support staff and embrace automation, they're limiting lawyers' human interactions even further, which is likely to exacerbate feelings of isolation that so many in the industry already struggle with. He and Law.com Editor-in-Chief Zack Needles explore that issue as well as the reasons why interacting face-to-face over Zoom all day does little to help with those feelings of loneliness.

Patrick Krill