In this fourth episode of DISCO's Just Hearsay podcast series, Jen Lenander, Global Head of Legal Operations for CSL Behring, is our guest. Lenander has a long history of working at the intersection of legal, technology and innovation to help law firms and lawyers work smarter, not harder. Just Hearsay hosts Kristin Zmrhal, DISCO Vice President of Product Strategy, and Katie DeBord, Vice President of Product Strategy at DISCO, discuss what it's like to get the LegalOps process under control, how to create end-to-end solutions with technology such as contract lifecycle management, and what it takes to get lawyers to change the mind about the tech they use.

Just Hearsay is a podcast series sponsored by DISCO. In the first two episodes, Zmrhal and DeBord spoke about career development and what led them on the road to legal technology. In the third episode, Zmrhal spoke to Casey Flaherty of LexFusion about the importance of community and collaboration in the legal tech space.