What does it mean to be an ally? The question was the panel topic for a group of white attorneys in positions of power at the Minority Corporate Counsel Association’s 2019 Creating Pathways to Diversity Conference on Tuesday.

“It’s about being comfortable with being awkward,” Bjarne Tellmann, the general counsel at Pearson Education Inc., said on having conversations surrounding diversity and inclusion. “It may not come out perfectly, but my heart is true. Let’s meet in the middle and have a conversation.”

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