Laurie Webb Daniel Holland Knight

(This is the third part in a series of four articles looking at the decline in oral arguments.)

While making oral arguments in state and federal courts for many years, Laurie Webb Daniel has also been talking with judges about the importance of hearing them.

Daniel is chair of Holland & Knight's national appellate team and leader of the firm's Atlanta litigation practice. She's also a member of the American Academy of Appellate Lawyers, a prominent national group that has been making the case for oral arguments. Daniel has participated in panel discussions with lawyers and judges to discuss the topic.

“The answer that I've been hearing from judges is that, in most cases, it doesn't change their mind. It may help to explain the case, help them write an opinion. But in most cases, it doesn't really change their mind,” she said. “However, a number of judges have said there are some cases where it does make a difference. The critical question then is what criteria they use in determining whether to grant oral arguments.”

And the answer to that question is still evolving.

Daniel's group has collected thoughts in a white paper titled: “Wither Oral Argument? The American Academy of Appellate Lawyers Say Let's Resurrect It!'

“The Academy puts great value on oral argument,” the report said. “Oral argument is, after all, the only time where a party and its advocate can interact with the decision-maker.”

The percent of appeals decided after the benefit of oral arguments rather than on the briefs alone has declined nationally in federal appeals courts. Statistics available on the U.S. Courts website show that 20 years ago, 40 percent of all cases were decided with the benefit of oral arguments, rather than on the briefs alone. By 2006, that percentage had dropped to 25 percent. By 2016, the most recent numbers available show the figure had dropped to 16 percent.

The Eleventh Circuit in Atlanta—which handles appeals for Alabama, Georgia and Florida—among the lowest. The Eleventh Circuit heard oral arguments for 30 percent of its cases in 1996, 16 percent in 2006 and 7 percent in 2016.

Daniel said she has not noticed that decline in her own practice.

“That's because most of what I get is high stakes,” she said.

Her opposing counsel in many of those high stakes cases—a $35 million verdict against Six Flags Over Georgia over an attack outside the theme park, for example—agreed with her on that point.

“I have not seen a downtick in the willingness of Georgia courts to hear oral arguments,” said Michael Terry of Bondurant, Mixson & Elmore.

Even at the Eleventh Circuit, Terry said he believes the judges generally grant oral arguments in complex matters and important questions of law—“the cases where they really need arguments.”

He added, “It's not the dollars at stake; it's the complexity of legal issues that should determine whether arguments are necessary.”

Terry said it's important for lawyers to look judiciously at their own requests and be specific about the need.

“Quite frankly, I think we owe some duty to the system not to request oral argument when it's not necessary,” he said.

Craig Jones of the Orlando Firm said he changed his mind about requesting oral arguments in 2015 when the Georgia Court of Appeals overturned a $1.6 million verdict he had won at trial. Jones said he believed he made one mistake: failing to ask.

“I learned a big lesson here,” Jones said after the reversal. “I did not ask for oral argument because the appellant didn't ask for oral argument.”

That had been his policy for his 29 years of practice. Jones said he had believed an old adage that said you can't win at oral arguments, but you can lose.

After the reversal, he said, “If you are convinced of the correctness of your position, you should not give up any opportunity to discuss it.”

Laurie Webb Daniel Holland Knight Holland & Knight

(This is the third part in a series of four articles looking at the decline in oral arguments.)

While making oral arguments in state and federal courts for many years, Laurie Webb Daniel has also been talking with judges about the importance of hearing them.

Daniel is chair of Holland & Knight's national appellate team and leader of the firm's Atlanta litigation practice. She's also a member of the American Academy of Appellate Lawyers, a prominent national group that has been making the case for oral arguments. Daniel has participated in panel discussions with lawyers and judges to discuss the topic.

“The answer that I've been hearing from judges is that, in most cases, it doesn't change their mind. It may help to explain the case, help them write an opinion. But in most cases, it doesn't really change their mind,” she said. “However, a number of judges have said there are some cases where it does make a difference. The critical question then is what criteria they use in determining whether to grant oral arguments.”

And the answer to that question is still evolving.

Daniel's group has collected thoughts in a white paper titled: “Wither Oral Argument? The American Academy of Appellate Lawyers Say Let's Resurrect It!'

“The Academy puts great value on oral argument,” the report said. “Oral argument is, after all, the only time where a party and its advocate can interact with the decision-maker.”

The percent of appeals decided after the benefit of oral arguments rather than on the briefs alone has declined nationally in federal appeals courts. Statistics available on the U.S. Courts website show that 20 years ago, 40 percent of all cases were decided with the benefit of oral arguments, rather than on the briefs alone. By 2006, that percentage had dropped to 25 percent. By 2016, the most recent numbers available show the figure had dropped to 16 percent.

The Eleventh Circuit in Atlanta—which handles appeals for Alabama, Georgia and Florida—among the lowest. The Eleventh Circuit heard oral arguments for 30 percent of its cases in 1996, 16 percent in 2006 and 7 percent in 2016.

Daniel said she has not noticed that decline in her own practice.

“That's because most of what I get is high stakes,” she said.

Her opposing counsel in many of those high stakes cases—a $35 million verdict against Six Flags Over Georgia over an attack outside the theme park, for example—agreed with her on that point.

“I have not seen a downtick in the willingness of Georgia courts to hear oral arguments,” said Michael Terry of Bondurant, Mixson & Elmore.

Even at the Eleventh Circuit, Terry said he believes the judges generally grant oral arguments in complex matters and important questions of law—“the cases where they really need arguments.”

He added, “It's not the dollars at stake; it's the complexity of legal issues that should determine whether arguments are necessary.”

Terry said it's important for lawyers to look judiciously at their own requests and be specific about the need.

“Quite frankly, I think we owe some duty to the system not to request oral argument when it's not necessary,” he said.

Craig Jones of the Orlando Firm said he changed his mind about requesting oral arguments in 2015 when the Georgia Court of Appeals overturned a $1.6 million verdict he had won at trial. Jones said he believed he made one mistake: failing to ask.

“I learned a big lesson here,” Jones said after the reversal. “I did not ask for oral argument because the appellant didn't ask for oral argument.”

That had been his policy for his 29 years of practice. Jones said he had believed an old adage that said you can't win at oral arguments, but you can lose.

After the reversal, he said, “If you are convinced of the correctness of your position, you should not give up any opportunity to discuss it.”