Mum's army – Obelisk founder Dana Denis-Smith on building her team of lawyer mothers
Denis-Smith reveals the early struggles of launching the outsourcer and GCs' changing attitude towards flexible providers
July 09, 2015 at 07:00 PM
6 minute read
Convincing mothers to sign up to flexible working was never going to be a hard task. Persuading general counsel to use teams of working mums for their outsourced work on the other hand was always going to be more demanding.
Five years on from launching a venture aimed at offering truly flexible working and giving lawyer mothers a viable route back into work, Dana Denis-Smith now has 800 people – mostly women – on her books. Her company, Obelisk, holds places on panels at companies including BT and Barclays. She has just been awarded Outstanding Legal Innovator at Legal Week's inaugural Legal Innovation Awards.
Against a backdrop of law firms struggling to retain female lawyers after they have had children, it is in many ways unsurprising that her business has found traction with a band of ambitious but time-poor lawyer mums desperate to keep their hand in with law while also raising children.
Having initially qualified at Linklaters, Denis-Smith left in 2007 to launch a business intelligence venture, leaning on the contact-building and networking skills she gained while working as a journalist for the Economist Group and Reuters before she studied law. She struck upon her idea while on a delegation to India with UK Trade & Investment in 2010. This was at the height of law firms' interest in the country as a legal outsourcing venue and the trip included a visit to one such supplier.
While there were several examples at the time of legal outsourcing being used successfully by clients, Denis-Smith found herself questioning whether GCs would be happy with the level of service offshore and the potential for confidentiality breaches at some outsourcers.
"On one hand law firms were increasingly turning to India for a cheaper option," she explains. "On the other hand the buyers were saying 'I'm worried about document security, I'm worried about supervising, I'm worried about politics'. I just couldn't see how the two tied up and if GCs really realised what these ventures were."
Bumps in the road
Based on the germ of an idea to offer a UK-based alternative to Indian providers, staffed with part-time, fully trained, experienced lawyers, Denis-Smith commissioned some research in the summer of 2010 to see whether the FTSE 100 would be willing to use outsourced providers for their legal work. The answer was fairly emphatic: no. Citing concerns from confidentiality breaches to quality of work, the research found that in-house teams were both dissatisfied with what was on offer at the time and unwilling to consider an alternative.
Undeterred, and at this stage pregnant herself, Denis-Smith began seeking funding to turn what was to become Obelisk into a reality. She wanted to create a respected and flexible career that fitted around lawyers', particularly mothers', lives, directly servicing the in-house community. The business needed to be a brand in itself, rather than a white label provider for law firms, that would be welcomed on CVs when and if lawyers chose to return to full-time work. This was about giving women a worthwhile role when they couldn't commit to the hours and stress of a permanent City position.
"Although I received a lot of positive feedback about the idea they struggled to see beyond the fact that I was pregnant," she recalls. "It was unsaid, but the message was pretty much 'great idea, shame about the bump'."
Soon after the birth of her daughter, Denis-Smith resurrected her efforts to get her idea off the ground, contacting the Law Society to see if it had any names of mothers looking to return to work. She was given four CVs, which through word of mouth grew to 15.
"That period was like a tea party – I travelled around the country and had tea with lots of mums. It was all very Avon Lady-style initially. I turned up and had to be honest: 'You don't know me from Adam, and it's just me with this idea, but I believe in it and if we stick together it might work out.' They were desperate for that solution in a way I had not appreciated."
Obelisk's break came when Denis-Smith managed to convince Goldman Sachs to give her a chance, winning what grew to be a fairly sizable document review 're-papering' style project in several languages.
Armed with a case study it was far easier to prove the proposition worked, although that didn't mean it was an easy sell to in-house teams. With the FTSE 100 dominated by male GCs, most of the key decision makers were also men. While many initially wrote off the venture in its early years, others were keen to support it having lost members of their own teams after they had started a family.
"When you are a new kid on the block and there is no law firm hovering over you, nobody knows who you are," she says. "They thought we were just an army of mums. We had all kinds of jibes about being disgruntled desperate housewives.
"I kept thinking 'I know this makes sense, it just might take them longer to buy it'. Whenever I got pushed back I wanted to know what made them uncomfortable and what they objected to. People were fascinated by the back-office model and kept trying to deconstruct it. Taking people's time in units and breaking it down to a micro level was a whole new concept. They worried about what would happen when they needed 20 or 30 people's time, but it actually came in the shape of 60 bodies."
Denis-Smith recounts a tale of one GC who, on being introduced to her for a second time once Obelisk started to get traction, feigned having never met her, having clearly dismissed her as a 'crazy mum' on the first occasion.
How it works
Under Obelisk's model, lawyers specify when they are available to work from home, with the company managing who gets what work to ensure it is delivered on time. Although the business supplies full-time secondees and contract workers, that is not its bread and butter, with most lawyers working an average of just over 20 hours a week. Consequently, great volumes of people are needed to ensure the working day is covered: Obelisk now has more than 800 on its books, recruited largely through word of mouth, with average earnings of around
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