Philadelphia Mayor Michael A. Nutter’s decision to hold secret meetings with a quorum of City Council to discuss impending budget cuts, and the city solicitor’s legal opinion in support of the practice, has sparked new debate over when elected officials cross a line between informal discussion and policy-making that must be done in the light of day.

A Philadelphia judge has denied the request of two Philadelphia newspapers to prohibit a quorum of Philadelphia’s City Council from meeting to discuss budget matters behind closed doors.

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